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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #10 on: Oct 17, 2019, 09:50 AM »
FYI since ordering the add has come up on my facebook feed, it would seem these are a limited supply of 100 pairs, so definitely a promotional thing, anyway awaiting there arrival and I'll get back to you.

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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #11 on: Oct 17, 2019, 11:45 AM »
Did some digging on the company that owns that website and it's based in China. They also advertise goods on Amazon/Alibaba etc.

Lets see what the gloves are like when they arrive, me thinks they could be a copy though.... as the MKIV gloves don't appear to be a discontinued range as far as I can see. Sorry to be pessimistic but can't see how they can sell a geniune Knox glove for $29.99   :016:

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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #12 on: Oct 17, 2019, 11:58 AM »
*Originally Posted by Rictus [+]
I will point out they show the MK3 version and not the newest MK4, but that's no problem for me.

Cheers Mark.

Oh I agree to an extent, however I've benefited previously from other startups and offers like this, they are designed to primarily generate traffic which in marketing terms means they can sell products far below RRP as the lost is seen as "marketting or building a brand/site",  I would imagine as the site isn't just bike kit the deals are what they could get their hands on and a "when it's gone, it's gone" deal, whether that be fake or real, we'll find out.
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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #13 on: Oct 17, 2019, 12:34 PM »
Sister-in-law used to work for UK Trading Standards, this sort of thing was rife back in the day, the problem is that if they don't come with the correct CE marking then you're (literally) chancing your arm on quality.

Some may think that a glove's a glove, but in my line of work they would be considered PPE and have certainly saved my skin (sic) on more than one occasion, I can't imagine anyone wanting to wear sub-standard gloves, same as not wanting to wear safety boots with cardboard, instead of steel toecaps  :015:

Regarding cheap helmets, there are two problems here, super cheap bargains have been shown in the press recently to have the same protection levels as Humpty Dumpty, secondly if you buy an "end of line" helmet, whilst they are perfectly safe, they could have been on a shelf for 2-3 years, so their safe life span is greatly reduced, buying two half price helmets that have a life of 2 years each, isn't such a bargain when you could have bought one full price one that's good for 5 years.
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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #14 on: Oct 17, 2019, 01:40 PM »
*Originally Posted by Dilbert [+]
Regarding cheap helmets, there are two problems here, super cheap bargains have been shown in the press recently to have the same protection levels as Humpty Dumpty, secondly if you buy an "end of line" helmet, whilst they are perfectly safe, they could have been on a shelf for 2-3 years, so their safe life span is greatly reduced, buying two half price helmets that have a life of 2 years each, isn't such a bargain when you could have bought one full price one that's good for 5 years.

As shown in this post
https://www.versys.co.uk/index.php/topic,25012.0.html
 the helmet I got for a bargain price was far from what you term "a cheap helmet" , I could have brought a modular helmet much the same as the Shoei neotec for far less; as to shelf sitting,  it's what they do in shops. if you read the Helmet post you'll see I enquired about the build date which to me is of more important than the "new date" a shop may say.once again I'll say, it's your money, pay top dollar for everything if you wish, I doubt you'll ever get stun but by the same token you'll spend far more, on the other hand; do due diligence and take a risk on deals and check it out you may save yourself a fair amount, I've over 40 yrs riding bikes and have been through the "cheap & cheerful" kit when younger, up to top brand stuff, though several real world tests of it's varying protection ( in fact just recently) added to that 12yrs as a frontline paramedic, I consider myself well informed in so far as what works or doesn't.

Cheers Mark.
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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #15 on: Oct 18, 2019, 12:37 PM »
I'm sure as a paramedic you will have the sense to work out what is and isn't appropriate safety wear, but this is a public forum and you have to consider that many will not be as well informed, not to get into too much of a dick measuring contest, but as a biker and engineer of 45 years I could be struck off from my professional registration if I were seen to be recommending anything other than a cautious approach to Health & Safety.

Thanks for your service as a paramedic, if you check my posts you'll see I have had need of your colleagues services on a couple of occasions and personally crash tested several helmets and CE jackets, jeans and boots  :22:
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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #16 on: Oct 18, 2019, 03:49 PM »
I see your point of view and if indeed you find yourself restricted by some professional body or any other reason; can understand  your reluctance to endorse  anything with a degree of uncertainty, I for instance wouldn't ever ride in an open face helmet or indeed endorse anyone choosing to do so; as I considering it both stupid and dangerous like wise T shirt and jeans, , but do appreciate others have a different point of view, and an argument could be made for comfort being more focusing when riding ?

 As to this threads subject, I know how this was presented to me, all the facts are present and clear, being a limited number and time I thought it wiser to post detail rather than one of those threads where you only find out after the fact, I think you're underestimating people's ability to judge for themselves but then perhaps you're right?

 I've posted a item on a short sidestand I've come across which I was impressed with; as there wasn't a time or number limit I waited to actually get the item before posting detail, you could argue it's not OEM so no good, but once again, present the information and let each decide for themselves.

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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #17 on: Oct 18, 2019, 08:23 PM »
In short, caveat emptor gentlemen.

Hope you enjoy the new gloves Rictus and so pleased to see your enthusiasm for biking has not suffered the dents that your bike has.

Keep on trucking in your spunky new gear, now go get them mucky on them grotty London roads.

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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #18 on: Oct 19, 2019, 12:48 AM »
*Originally Posted by jonnster71 [+]
In short, caveat emptor gentlemen.

Hope you enjoy the new gloves Rictus and so pleased to see your enthusiasm for biking has not suffered the dents that your bike has.

Keep on trucking in your spunky new gear, now go get them mucky on them grotty London roads.

 :031:

Oh I'm far to much of an optimist for anything to get me down for long and have ideas for a return visit to IOM and Berlin next year, not quite back to ridibg fitness just yet but looking forward to it soon.

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Re: Bit of a deal on Knox handroid gloves.
« Reply #19 on: Oct 21, 2019, 12:23 PM »
*Originally Posted by Rictus [+]
I think you're underestimating people's ability to judge for themselves but then perhaps you're right?

No problem buddy, but the statement above is exactly why we have CE Marking in the first place  :008:

China's a funny old place, they don't play by the same rules, so very much up to the individual, hopefully yours will come CE Marked and with genuine Knox documentation, they should do if they are a special offer from Knox via their supplier, unfortunately China also has a reputation for sub-standard copies, so as Jonnster's Latin, buyer beware  :016:

I've actually had a lot of good stuff from Chinese suppliers on eBay, especially clutch and brake levers and electrical accessories (LED lights, etc), oh and don't buy any clothing from Chinese companies, their sizing leaves a lot to be desired, I bought a lightweight jacket, sized "Large" it looked more like a bra on me  :008:
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