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Offline DINO

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2015 v2018/19
« on: Feb 10, 2020, 09:23 PM »
Hi All,
Does any one know performance wise is there  any difference between a 2015 Mk 3 650 and an 18 or 19 model year 650 versys
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Re: 2015 v2018/19
« Reply #1 on: Feb 11, 2020, 10:32 AM »
No, from 015 to present model I don't think there is any difference.  :002:
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Re: 2015 v2018/19
« Reply #2 on: Feb 11, 2020, 11:10 AM »
I don't know exactly how the years match to the emission standard change from Euro4 to Euro5, perhaps some 2018-2019 bikes are already Euro5 and 2020 sure should be, but the delay from factory to registration has always puzzled me, what I buy from the dealer should more likely than not be the last years production.

Additionally, there are different markets, the US and third world specs may slightly differ from the EU specs. That being said, this should all be really minor, small fueling and exhaust changes that you should not really feel while riding.

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Re: 2015 v2018/19
« Reply #3 on: Feb 13, 2020, 09:27 AM »
Thanks for that,I vaguely remember reading something ,somewhere about changes re emissions.
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Re: 2015 v 2018/19
« Reply #4 on: Feb 13, 2020, 10:01 AM »
The Mk3 V650's are only Euro 4 compliant.

Euro 5 that came in to law this Jan 2020 only applies to completely new models.

However, Euro 4 / current model bikes can still be sold until Jan 21, but after that they then have to become Euro 5 complient.

So expect to see the V650v Mk4 to be introduced in late 2020 for the 2021 sales year  :028:

The ER6 / Z650  new model for 2020 is Euro 5  complient - the main change is to mapping valave durations and exhaust 3 way Cat, apart for styling changes  :028:
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Re: 2015 v 2018/19
« Reply #5 on: Feb 13, 2020, 10:24 AM »
*Originally Posted by TowerMan [+]
The Mk3 V650's are only Euro 4 compliant.

Euro 5 that came in to law this Jan 2020 only applies to completely new models.

However, Euro 4 / current model bikes can still be sold until Jan 21, but after that they then have to become Euro 5 complient.

So expect to see the V650v Mk4 to be introduced in late 2020 for the 2021 sales year  :028:

The ER6 / Z650  new model for 2020 is Euro 5  complient - the main change is to mapping valave durations and exhaust 3 way Cat, apart for styling changes  :028:
  I think that we may see a new replacement for the 650 Versys in 2021.    Maybe something with slightly larger displacement.  With lots of new gizmos and gadgets thrown at it. And a price rise of 2 to 3 grand.  :027:
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Re: 2015 v2018/19
« Reply #6 on: Feb 14, 2020, 08:48 AM »
Pay close attention to the Louis.eu bike search chart below. Exact year numbers may be off by one or even two, but what I suspect is they are anticipating Euro5 compliant version, not a whole new MK4.

Talking about MK4, as I have expressed my thoughts elsewhere, that would probably be a Versts 650 based on the today's Z650 frame and technology. Versys 650 was never a new platform, it was just a modification of the ER6-N. Following that logic, next Versys is modification of the Z650. Now one could say why not Z900, but that would basically be Versys 1000, they will not do two bikes with 100 cc and 10 pounds apart, plus both being 4 cylinder sport bike engines.

Now of course this only holds if the current development logic continues. They can come out with something completely new, say, something like KLR700 which would be a match to the Tenere 700 and then they could make two versions of it, a road-going Versys 700 and more off-roady KLR 700.