I meant, how does topping out actually feel or how to identify that it is happening? bottomming out can be felt as the shock hits its bottom. my rear shock has softer spring than OEM hence my sag is bigger than recommended. I ordered softer spring to lower the bike, which I found as a cheaper way of achieving this goal; i can now not just flat-foot, but having my knees slightly bent when having my feet on the ground. one can of course order a shorter rear shock, but here I did not have this option. even though YSS has a nut that allows to shorten the shock by 5mm or so.