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Offline FallenNinja

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New source of buzzing
« on: Jun 19, 2007, 02:00 PM »
I have spent a bit of time looking for the cause of the buzz on my Versys and have just found it. It isn't the plastics, oh no, it's the clutch lever. Buzzing like a ####.  :151:

Another trip to the dealer I guess.

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #1 on: Jun 19, 2007, 02:06 PM »
Same problem here!   :9:

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #2 on: Jun 19, 2007, 02:18 PM »
Nuts - I thought if I found it first I got to name it.

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #3 on: Jun 19, 2007, 04:41 PM »
.... Let's call it "Fred"....
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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #4 on: Jun 19, 2007, 06:18 PM »
Hi Ninj,

Like you I could not find the buzz in the plastics and that after I've taken the front end apart twice!
A strange thing that I find is that it does not buzz when the bike is stationary.....but as soon as its moving it starts buzzing like a #### at 3000-4000rpm like you so aptly put it.  :001:

I will take her out tomorrow to check, I hope the clutch lever is the culprit on my bike too.

Great job in finding the elusive ####

Cheers

Christo
« Last Edit: Jun 19, 2007, 06:22 PM by Christo »

Offline adventureboy

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #5 on: Jun 20, 2007, 05:17 PM »
my previous Z750 has the same problem (like all the Z)...forget it if you think that Kawa will do something for that...

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #6 on: Jun 20, 2007, 08:05 PM »
Is this in addition to the buzz from the plastics? :027: I have just picked up my versys from the workshop after having the first service done included in this they fitted my panier's and put dampers in around were the fairing meets the tank and dash and hey all that buzzing s' gone  :37:

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #7 on: Jun 20, 2007, 11:25 PM »
Yep, it's buzzing all over the place now. I was adjusting the chain tonight and I noticed the left hand side rear trim panel (under the seat) was really loose - didn't have time to look at it today so I will hope it doesn't drop off until sunday night when I get back in.

Its getting a little irritating, I had a buzz on my ZX6R that never got fixed.

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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #8 on: Jun 21, 2007, 12:02 PM »
Sounds like you trying to solve the symptoms rather than the route cause. What causes the vibes in the first place has to be the engine ...do they vibrate naturally or is some thing out of balance or something loose (engine bolt?? )
OK, I  haven't  even got one yet  (waiting for bloke to buy my capo) but this applies to any bike . In line fours have a natural buzz about them, which I don?t like? I like it lumpy   :033:

Or as I've had two different salesmen telling me they are built to a budget and therefore do "they all do  that sir " . Quality does come at price a they may chosen cheapen the bike in the engine area where it can?t been seen. However  its still a very good engine ,feels more  like V twin than my capo
 
At this rate I may have to have another test ride  :notsure:
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Re: New source of buzzing
« Reply #9 on: Jun 21, 2007, 06:05 PM »
These new parallel twins do have an inherent and annoying buzz at certain rpm's (frequencies) that vary whether engine is under load or not. THIS is what has made it difficult for me to address the buzzing myself. What has worked in the driveway, doesn't work once under way on the road. They do use internal gear or chain driven counterbalance shafts, but these engines, while may be great motors, efficient, strong and no doubt as dependable as their little smaller siblings (the 250 twin and 500 twin) it would seem that the extra displacement has made the vibes harder to deal with. At least using the measures they are using now. The ER6 sport version 650 twin has had this identical buzz problem and Kawi has a vibe damper kit consisting of rubber pads etc (I assume, I have never seen it) but Kawi doesn't seem to care about us and our 07 Versys which has the identical problem. I'll bet you a dollar to a donut the 08's won't do it as badly. Where does that leave us? This is my first Kawi in quite a few years (last was the EX500 Ninja they called it over here) and was a great bike. I have a friend with the 250. They all have the same sort of sound, but the bigger 650 takes the frequency of the vibes to a whole new and annoying level. Aside from the audible aesthetics annoyance, this type of vibration is serious enough in my opinion, that plastic trim panels are already leaving white plastic dust left behind here and there, and consequently this means serious wear of the mating materials and fasteners wheich means it will only get looser and buzzier and even break off I would imagine. Things that buzz and move do not get tighter and fix themselves with age, they just get worse. My bike has only 2500 km (about 1500 miles).

I have asked two different dealers here and selling dealer could care less. They have their money. The second dealer (which didn't offer the Versys at the time I bought it) seems more promising, but they too have not heard a word from Kawi about sending out a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin), let alone an actual buzz fix-it kit on this buzzing issue, nor the corrosion issue from reg/rec road spray location. (I made a boot for it before I rode the bike anywhere, but I shouldn't have had to).